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Eight years ago, Michelle Patidar was 32 years old, freshly out of chemo for stage 2 non-Hodgkin's lymphoma — and completely on her own. No aftercare plan. No gut recovery roadmap. Just crippling anxiety, food sitting in her stomach like a brick, and doctors telling her to "give it time."

She didn't wait. She figured it out herself.

In this episode, Michelle — now a certified integrative nutrition health coach and cancer recovery specialist — breaks down what conventional oncology gets wrong about post-chemo recovery, how the gut-immune-nervous system connection saved her health, and what she now teaches cancer survivors and prevention-focused women to actually do.

We cover: gut microbiome damage after chemotherapy, detoxification done right (no juice cleanses), nervous system regulation, low-tox living, environmental cancer triggers like glyphosate and water contamination, functional testing for cancer prevention, mindset after diagnosis, and how to stop living in fear of recurrence.

If you've been through cancer, love someone who has, or you're serious about prevention — this one hits different.

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Liz Roman: [00:00:00] Hello, welcome back to the Health Revival Show. Today, we are gonna talk about ... I get a lot of questions about this. I'm sure you get way more than I do, but we're gonna talk about teen periods because mine sucked as a teenager. 

Becca Chilz: Under too. 

Liz Roman: And I just feel for all of the girls now, because what we get into today, hopefully for you as moms, we can empower you, or you can have your daughters listen to this so that they can understand how much all of the products that we use really impact our hormones.

Because I used to have, I'm not kidding you, two drawers, dresser drawers full of either Limited Two, all the sprays, the body sprays, the glitter sprays. Yeah. Abercrombie, Hollister, Bath and Bodyworks, you name it, I had it and was lathering it on. Doesn't that sound just like, ew? 

Becca Chilcz: I don't, like, I was so fat. I couldn't even fit in a lot of those clothes.

Um- 

Liz Roman: But that's why I was buying all these because [00:01:00] I also could have fit. I don't think I ever owned anything for Ever Comedy. '

Becca Chilz: Cause I owned one pair, one shirt, and it was like a checkered button down. It was a blue and white checkered, but I remember the exact outfit I wore. It was navy blue, like, khaki style flare pants and a checkered navy blue and white button down that I thought I was so cool because it was from Abercrombie.

It was not cute, but it was from Abercrombie. So, you know, that's the- 

Liz Roman: Okay, what's it called, um, when you have a smell that reminds you of things that, like- Nostalgia. Nostalgia. That's what I was thinking too. Do you have, um, nostalgia in- 

Becca Chilz: Yes. I had a perfume that I loved and I remember it was in a bottle and it had, like, um, kind of a candy cane swirl on the outside looking like.

And it smelled like cotton candy. And I remember my brother telling me I smelled like a circus and I loved it. It smelled so good to me, but yes, that smell. That smell is the perfume I used 

Liz Roman: to do. Yes. Um, my mom was all about the warm vanilla sugar. Mm. Okay, so that- She conscent [00:02:00] 

Becca Chilz: though. 

Liz Roman: Yeah, that makes me think of her.

Uh, I went through, like, a cherry phase. I'm about to out myself here real hard. 

Becca Chilz: My sister had two cherries tattooed on her butt. I'm pretty sure she got them taken off. I think maybe. I, I actually don't know. I don't know if she had them remember or not. 

Liz Roman: On her butt cheese? Mm-hmm. 

Becca Chilz: Yep. Two cherries on her butt.

Liz Roman: Like, what on each 

Becca Chilz: side? Like a, like two on one side, like a, with this- Oh my gosh. ... you know, connected. I'm not really sure why. I don't remember. 

Liz Roman: I should ask her about this. 

Becca Chilz: I should. I forgot about that. God. My sister's like very straight laced now. She's like, you would not suspect it. 

Liz Roman: So I went through a phase.

I had all, like, pajamas, slippers, uh, a bag, like everything was cherry. Like, why I went through this phase, I don't remember. But they had, like, some flavor or some smell at Bath & Body Works that was, like, all around that cherry thing. So it was like the buy three, get three free, you know what I mean? So you had all of it.

Uh, and then I will say from a male standpoint, fierce and curve. 

Becca Chilz: Mm-hmm. 

Liz Roman: Those remind me of some of my high school brushes. 

Becca Chilz: Names. [00:03:00] Um, I don't even wanna bring that up. And that's just ... We're gonna leave that box closed for now. Um, my poor husband. Uh, he core is, like, more of, like, the, like, forest type scent, you know?

Like, I, I ca- I don't know. It's- 

Liz Roman: How do I describe it? 

Becca Chilz: Yeah, I don't know how to ... Like, I don't wanna say, like, tim- I wanna say timber. That's obviously not a scent. Um, but, like- 

Liz Roman: So, like, very, like, mm, it makes me wood Z. Yeah. Say 

wood. 

Becca Chilz: That's kind of the synthety. That's like his body wash and I have to buy him because otherwise he will buy that, like, four in one, like, shampoo, body wash, like, all the things in one.

Oh, yeah. Like, please don't buy this crap. Like, let me- Yeah. So I usually buy stuff for him and pick scents that I like. But, um- 

Liz Roman: You know what's so interesting about that though, too, is that men's cologne and how it mixes with their body definitely smells different. 

Becca Chilz: Oh, fair. You know? That is very, that is very fair.

Liz Roman: Um, because, like, my husband's best friend has Santel 33 and I was gonna get it for him and he's like, "I don't wanna smell like my best friend." I'm like, [00:04:00] "I love it. " And then they came over, they actually loved Dime that artwores. I love ... My favorite cologne on my husband is Tom Ford, fucking fabulous. That is the name of it.

Oh. It is so good. So it's always, like, the special date nights that he'll wear that. But when you smell it on somebody else, it smells completely different, which is so interesting. But- Yeah. ... anyways. Absolutely. So we're actually talking about teen periods today, not, uh, nostalgia, but we wanna go into this because we're seeing, number one, that teens are really struggling.

Like, if you just look around, you can tell by either little estrogen kind of bellies or acne on the face, and this goes for boys too, so we can even talk about that as well. But we're seeing that this is hitting earlier and earlier. And I was listening to a podcast earlier today where they were talking regarding if we have early men, uh, puberty, does that mean that they will go into early menopause?

And so far, [00:05:00] there's not been correlation enough to say that this is true, but it is something to kind of think about in the way that what are you exposed, what's driving this, right? So as you get older, as you start to improve your health, yeah, of course, maybe you change trajectory for this, but it's again, like, more of a toxic bucket and overload and burden that we wanna kind of drive home today.

And there was an endocrinologist that was working with a teen that had a lot of horrible, uh, bloating. She had a lot of mood swings and acne, specifically, like, on that, like, jawline. And all he did was have the family change her personal care products and everything improved. 

Becca Chilz: Yeah. My, my poor niece, my niece is nine, and she has acne on her forehead already.

And she doesn't have a good diet, then my sister-in-law knows, like, and we've talked about it. I'm pretty positive it's all stemming from the gut. But it's so hard to see kids, especially in today's world. Like, one, there's such a focus on appearance, and I can't even imagine growing up in the world of social media, like, [00:06:00] thank God I didn't.

Um, I already feel like I had a lot of confidence in self-image issues. Um, but unfortunately, with all of these endocrine disruptors and the xenoestrogens, your body experiences them as what would be kind of like estrogen. And we know for teens, and honestly, this episode can be even for adults too that experience PMDD and PMS, but for teens, your estrogen comes on raring at first.

Your progesterone takes a while to fully develop, and so you have an imbalance. It's basically the opposite of what happens in perimenopause, where progesterone slowly declines until it's far off, and estrogen kind of goes on this crazy ro- wild rollercoaster. The opposite is what happens in puberty, where produ- adjust estrogen comes on first.

Progesterone takes a while to fully develop and balance itself out around, like, your mid- 20s. So for a lot of these people, they have horrible PMS, rightfully so, because they have an imbalance going on. But the pro- bigger problem is that you now have all of these exposures of poor diet, [00:07:00] xenoestrogens, stress, right, all of these things that are worsening that estrogen environment that was already imbalanced to begin with for people going through puberty.

And so the big difference that I wanna decipher too, because we're kinda talking about PMS and PMDD, and at the end, we'll give things that you can implement for your teens, for yourself, right? But PMS is very common, right? A large majority of the population experiences some level of PMS. Typically, it'll happen in, like, the week-ish leading into your period.

You might have a little bit of bloating, you might have a little bit more water retention, maybe some breast tenderness, mood shifts, all of those things, right? It's annoying, but it's manageable and it's predictable. You know, I I always have to remind myself bleeding into my period. I'm like, "This is why I'm crying right now for no reason."

Um, I would say as long as it is not debilitating, I had pretty debilitating PMS growing up, and I know Liz did too, like, heating pad, didn't wanna go to school, like- 

Liz Roman: Midol. The whole bottle of Midl. 

Becca Chilz: My mom put a diaper on me, essentially. Like, [00:08:00] it was just bad. It was bad. Underneath those blue pants that I liked from Abercrombie.

Liz Roman: Are we talking about these maxi pads that literally were, like- Huge. ... front to b- ... It's, like, almost like the postpartum. 

Becca Chilz: It's postpartum underwear. Yeah. 

Liz Roman: What a 

Becca Chilz: nightmare. Um- 

Liz Roman: You know what is awkward though is, like, learning how to use a tampon. 

Becca Chilz: Oh, it's the worst. It's the 

Liz Roman: worst. 

Becca Chilz: Yeah. And- 

Liz Roman: I'm glad I don't have girls.

Becca Chilz: Oh, yeah. Taylor has seen me take out a tampon before, and she's like, "Ew, mom." I'm like, "Man, I mean- Then get out of the bathroom. Get out of the bathroom. You follow me in here all the time. Like, let me go to the bathroom." She cannot. She cannot be not by my side, which is amazing, but also exhausting. Um, PMDD now.

So PMDD, uh, last thing I should say about PMS. PMS, I think, has a lot of, especially worse, PMS has a lot of underlying factors of inflammation, of detoxification issues, and then an imbalance of hormones. So as teens, the imbalance is obvious. Like, that's understandable. As adults, though, that imbalance tends to be driven [00:09:00] by stress, driving down tr- progesterone or, you know, chronic undereating or inflammation, gut issues, right?

All of those things are gonna impact how estrogens detox. So then you have a bigger imbalance as you lead into the end of your cycle where both hormones are dropping, and that shift is what causes the symptoms. When it comes to hormone, I try to reiterate this all the time. Your symptoms are not from levels of hormones.

It is from imbalance and shifts of hormones, which is what PMDD is. And so I find that PMS is worsened by low l- like, baseline levels of inflammation that are high because your period in general is an inflammatory event. Like, if you saw what was happening, just, like, exploding cells in your uterus area, it's very violent, actually, what happens for your cycle.

But anyways, PMDD is more neurological. So typically, anxiety, depression, rage, extreme mood swings, like hopelessness, withdrawal feelings, brain fog, fatigue, like, this is [00:10:00] very interfering to your life, um, and it lasts almost the entire second half of a cycle. So it's, like, half the month, every month that you are feeling awful.

And it's mainly because of how you experience alloprednenolone differently. So in your brain, progesterone converts to alloprednolone that should calm you, that should activate GABA, you're relaxed, right? But in PMDD, you have a different response to allopregnolone. So instead of calming, it causes more anxiety and irritability and mood instability.

And this is shown in research. So women with PMDD have different neurosteroid sensitivity. So it's not levels that are different. It's your sensitivity, and it is to the shifts of the hormones, okay? So that's something that I think is really important to understand, is that they're basically just more sensitive.

I think that in these populations, there is also an aspect of glutamate. And we know that GABA should be calming, but if you are pushing more towns to [00:11:00] glutamate pathway, that would be really interesting to look at is genetics of people with PMDD. And if they have that mutation of GAD and, you know, the, the genetic blocks that basically cause you to not produce GABA, but produce glutamate, which is more excitatory, anxiety, you know, inflammatory- Mine 

Liz Roman: racing.

Yeah. 

Becca Chilz: So it's, it's not a good scene for PMDD. And then estrogen influences serotonin, which helps, you know, stability of mood. And when estrogen fluctuates, serotonin drops, so people are more sensitive to that, that's where, you know ... SSRIs sometimes can help, but it's not a depression problem. It's a how you experience hormones problem, right?

And some people, SSRIs don't touch it. 

Liz Roman: Yeah. And I think this is where testing is really important and can be a game changer. Even genetics, just genetics alone, I think there's so much that we can do to help explain to people, this is what you're more prone to. How you experience these genetic predispositions is based upon your diet, [00:12:00] your lifestyle, and the environment that your genes are being placed into because there's actually been, um

What study was it? There was a study and it was two twins. I believe that, um, Quran quoted it on our podcast. Mm-hmm. But basically, right, if you take identical twins and you put them in different environments, and I know that there's been studies like this in animals too, they're seeing different gene expressions.

So remember that genetics are so powerful because it gives you the knowledge to say, okay, I know that I'm prone to converting testosterone into estrogen. If I'm gonna start estrogen therapy, then I really need to watch how I'm aromatizing or converting into estrogen and how I'm clearing those pathways.

If you combine that with methylation genetics, even beyond MTHFR, because there's more genes besides MTHFR related to methylation, then we have to take it a step further and say, okay, how are we clearing it and which doors estrogen's going out, but then out of the body in terms of methylation? So there's so much that we can look at CompT, right, [00:13:00] on the neurotransmitter profile is another big one for estrogen and estrogen detoxification.

Are we pushing more inflammatory estrogen? So a lot of those can be very helpful, even if you didn't do, like, a full on program, but you just did a genetics test or did a genetics test for your children, right? That could be ways that then you could even navigate, okay, these supports might work better for her.

I am seeing a lot, and I know Becca is too of reactions to DIM, and DIM is in an, excuse me, DIM is in a lot of supports for hormones. And so I would just caution you if you are going on the Instagrams, right, and you're seeing, for example, big names out there promoting these different types of estrogen or hormone supports, hormone balancing supports, look at the ingredients and understand that it may not bear well with you because of some of those propensities.

The same, like Becca was saying here for, uh, GAD1, these neurotransmitter genes, there's a few of them. If you're [00:14:00] pushing more into glutamate, you wanna avoid glutamine. So instead of getting this, you know, kind of balancing effect, you're getting more of that night racing, insomnia, uh, you know, just can't quiet the mind.

So understand that genes and genetics can be very, very powerful. But why are we seeing more and more PMS, PMDD, especially with teens? So I already mentioned some things in terms of personal care product. This is because these are endocrine disruptors. They mimic estrogen in the body. As she said already, estrogen comes on ragin, right out of the gates.

Progesterone takes a long time to catch up. And if you think about, I like to put these two as twin sisters. Estrogen is your wild sister. She wants to go out and party till 3:00 AM. Progesterone is your more calming, balancing hormone that wants to just have a night in, chill out, right, and relax. And so that is one that can really make this picture even, uh, worse, right, if you have more estrogen because of estrogen mimicking chemicals in the body.

Combine that with chronic [00:15:00] stress, nervous system dysregulation, right? All of the stress in today's world with social media, bullying, um, all of the, you know, just chronic stimulation with all these inputs, the comparison, I think now that's worse than ever and kids are getting phones younger and younger, they're getting social media accounts, they're hearing things, uh, especially in the girl, like if it's a mean girl category, right?

Mm-hmm. That's, that's a lot of pressure on a young girl. Um, body composition. Becca and I were both overweight. Uh, as young girls, we know what it's like to feel insecure, right? Be the fat girl. And then you've got your best friend who's a twig and, or very fit, right? Like one of my best friends was a cheerleader, beautiful.

And so I was always comparing myself to her, like wishing that I had her body. And so a lot of that cortisol dysregulation, as we kind of talked about on Monday's podcast, can lead to, again, neural transmitter dysfunction, feeling hormones differently, and then, uh, progesterone production being, you know, off [00:16:00] balance.

Then we gotta talk about diet, right? We can't have a hormone conversation with talking about blood sugar, insulin, dietary inputs. Most of the clients that we work with in terms of the children and teen category are eating more of a standard American diet. We are undernourished in terms of all these minerals and vitamins and micronutrients that we need.

So that's gonna be from different polyphenols and fibers and all of that. So if you've got a picky eater, what I would really heavily encourage is try to get more good in. Uh, in my, it's more of like the happy tummies guide for kids with digestive issues, but I talk about several different ways to do this, hide it in, you know, different foods.

If they like a smoothie, all right, cool. Can we add certain things that won't throw the taste off too much so we can get some of that good in? Could you get a powder that is decent tasting, right? Maybe you mix it with, like, I love the just ingredients. They've got a lot of either pre-workout or electrolytes, even clear [00:17:00] proteins that can be really good.

The strawberry clear protein is phenomenal. It's a powder or they have canned ones. Um, those things could be, just add more good, right? I don't think that you're gonna get a teen to completely overhaul their diet. I don't think that you're gonna get them to not have ice cream with their friends or pizza or whatever, maybe in extreme cases, but we also have to be realistic because we're teaching, or we wanna be teaching our generations to come how to nourish their body and how to fuel their body in a way that makes them feel good.

And I don't think that we will get very far if we just go in with taking everything away that they love. Because these girls have probably been on this type of diet for a very long time. We want adherence and compliance long-term, but that's where as a mom, I would be going at it from, and this is the same as I do at home with my kids, how can I get more good in you?

You guys follow me on social media, you see that I'm always adding, like, camu camo to my son's. Uh, we call it his immune drink and he asked for it. He can make it himself. We do half water, half, uh, power of sea from Trader Joe's. It's like a tropical [00:18:00] juice, got some erocola cherry in there, some other really good stuff.

And then we add the kamukamo, I add some begin health, uh, prebiotics with a little bit of fiber in there, and I also add some of the kids, BioRay kids' tinctures for him too. 

Becca Chilz: Yeah. I mean, the biggest thing I would say is try to get your teen eating consistently, because I know I've worked with high school kids.

I know you've worked with teens, like they skip meals, they don't eat in the morning, or they eat something that's really high sugar, like a bagel, or, you know, that's something that I always am trying to get my kids to ... We do, like, the Vans waffles in the morning, but then I have them eat it with a peanut butter perfect bar, or, like, something that balances the meal at least, right?

Um, it's not the best thing in the world, but at least I'm trying to bring in some healthy fats and it's gluten-free, right? Like, figure out ways to make it doable for them, um, so that they're not skipping meals. Because I would say that blood sugar swings are probably one of the worst things for the body, um, especially as a developing teen, because you're gonna have cortisol spike, you're gonna have hormone [00:19:00] disruption, you're gonna have blood sugars elevated, right?

So if you can at least get them protein ... Carson asked me the other day how much protein he should be eating in a day. And I was like- I 

Liz Roman: love that. 

Becca Chilz: I was like, "Honestly, kid, you know, you're probably overdoing it. You had a whole filet last night. You, you eat, he brings a protein bar for a snack every day, like- 

Liz Roman: Good job, Carson.

I 

Becca Chilz: love that. Loves protein." Um, and so I think if you can have protein at meals, you can have healthy fats. And then, you know, the carbs are there. That's fine. The kids can have carbs. They should have carbs. But as much as you can make them not naked carbs and not, you know, solo, unless maybe that's some fruit or something like that, I think it'll help a lot because I do see more and more PCOS with teens these days as well.

Um, and then the gut, God, the gut is such a huge piece of it, especially because we know estrogen unfortunately slows bile and it then makes digestion a lot harder for the body. It makes fat breakdown, it causes bacterial imbalances. And I'm sure that's a huge driver of, for teens growing up as estrogen is kind of just like out of control, um, [00:20:00] and all of these, you know, estrants that we're dealing with because in most scenarios, I'm dealing with teens that have horrible acne, or I'm dealing with teens that have horrible cycles, and a lot of that can stem back to gut imbalances.

So you gotta be careful with the gut with teens. It's a lot more about, like, digestive capacity and supporting that in terms of maybe a digestive enzyme if they can handle it. And that's why I like bitters, because bitters is stomach acid supporting bowel supporting and digestive enzy I'm supporting, and it's a tincture.

So you can take it with, like, maybe a little bit of juice before meal or something like that with a teen. Um, and I usually front load and backload. If I am putting teens on any type of supplements, it's like, can I do powders? Can I do tinctures? Can I do things where they're not swallowing a ton of pills?

And can I do them breakfast and dinner, right? Mm-hmm. Um, and that way, they don't have to bring anything to school or worry about that. And like Liz was saying, I think dim has become a problem for a lot of people because phase two detox is so backed up for so many people, because dim is a phase one pusher.

And so if you're trying to push estrogen harder down the rabbit hole of detox, but phase two can't keep up or you're constipated or [00:21:00] things like that, you can absolutely have symptoms when it comes to dim. So not saying that it can't necessarily be helpful. We love estro factors. We love using, you know, broccoli, sprouts, sulfurphane, calciumD glucrate, things that can be a little bit more gentle for people if they can't handle the dim.

Um, high dose magnesium is another great option that we'll do with clients for, like, teen periods and PMS. Um, but at the end of the day, a lot of times it comes back to estrogen problems, can't detox, there's gut issues, stimulating of histamine, right? I had a client the other day that asked, her daughter breaks out when she walks on the treadmill.

Like, she also has, you know, some neurological ADHD and anxiety and things like that. And in those cases, I'm also potentially looking in the environment. Is there mold? Is there something else going on, right? It, it ... Symptoms like that vast and across that many different systems, I don't think there's just hormones at play, right?

So you have to also decide, like, when is it time to look a little bit deeper? Could there be something [00:22:00] else going on? Um, because hormones can cause a lot of symptoms. They are absolutely something that can drive symptoms, but they aren't always the root issue of things going on. Um, and that's where, you know, you gotta look at the environmental load, like, what is their skincare and haircare?

What are their, you know, plastics? Are they drinking out of water bottles all the time? Are they letting those water bottles sit in their car and then drinking out of them after they've been in a hot car, right? Uh, little things like that do put an additional burden on the liver to pre- you know, manage these things.

And the earlier you start to get exposure to those things, which it's happening earlier and earlier. Like I think of all these little girls that are at Sephora when, God, I was still using, like, Walgreens lip, uh, gloss up until, like, the age of 16. Um, I think about we're just getting this bigger load on the body earlier, you know?

It's just so many things that are stressing out their systems that weren't around before. I love the reals of, like, me when I was a teen with my girlfriends versus now, and they're like, now they're in these cute crop tops, they look like [00:23:00] adults, they're doing these, like, organized dances, and I should find the VHS of.

Liz Roman: I mean, here's what we were doing. We were, like, walking on the train tracks and throwing rocks and going to the bowling alley and, like, rollerplating and playing football on the street, riding our bikes. Like, we were doing completely different things than most of the teens today. Um, and, you know, then again, it's just, like, how all of this compiles, right?

So I think let's take it into how do we address this? What would we do in the home? Um, obviously, like we've already mentioned from a dietary perspective, adding more good. Add more electrolytes, especially if your teens or your children are in sports. I think this is often overlooked as well. So if they are very active, they're dancers, they are, you know, in sports and they're sweating a lot, whatever that looks like, make sure that you are really, really intentional with getting good amounts of electrolytes in them.

Um, I would, from a, you know, product perspective, start to swap things out. Dime, clean beauty, we both love. They've got some really great things in [00:24:00] terms of different perfumes. They also have, like, a mascara. I don't love it as much as the olive rose because the wand and the, like, the vial was, like, really finicky for me, and I had two of them.

So I love the olive rose mascara. I think hands down, that's one of the best, and I use all of their skincare, uh, products. But if you're thinking about, you know, makeup, you can look into some clean makeup lines. I know that Ulta is getting some of those. And as far as that, I think crunchy is supposed to be, like, one of the better ones.

I don't really know. I use saint makeup, so does Becca where I use the olive rose. Most of the time I'm using olive rose, but saint makeup, I will put on for, like, speaking events, or typically, like, in the last podcast studio, because it gives me a lot more, um, like, coverage, right, for stuff like this. But Olive Rose has a really nice skin tent.

They've got some, uh, beautiful lip and blush colors. You can contour with it. You've got, you know, just a lot that you could do there that is very clean. And again, it's not that we don't want them to live. We don't want them to go to Ulta and, you know, be able to have these little shopping sprees, but we wanna just be mindful of [00:25:00] if we aren't cleaning up, you know, the diet and then we're compiling all of this on, it's just gonna further exacerbate that toxin bucket.

The other piece too, for moms at home, right? Switch over your cleaning and your laundry stuff. Truly free. Again, it's affordable. It works. It's really good stuff. That would be, uh, one thing that you could control, right? 'Cause I don't think most of these gals are probably doing their laundry full stop yet.

Mm-hmm. I would switch things out in terms of, like, organic feminine products, you know? So maybe looking at Target, what is organic? That's what I buy. I just, honestly, somebody asked me the other day, "Can you do something at Target around all of the stuff?" I'm like, "I'm just in and out, right? I just look for the organic, carabin-free, plastic-free, all that kind of stuff."

Um, so you can get different apps, right? The EWG has a lot of different resources. We have a non-toxic living guide that you can go and you can look at, but it's just how do we start to make some of these swaps and reduce the toxic load? And then if you wanna give some support, um, I find that EstroFactors for Metagenics does a [00:26:00] really nice job for the week out from their period.

Start there. Maybe you're not loading your kid up, you know, with supplements all the time, but that's a really nice one for PMS. Uh, I also like their rapid period relief that works in 30 minutes as more of, like, a natural Midol. If it's not strong enough, of course, you could pair it with something else. Um, cramp bark can be a good one for really bad cramps.

I would also say, uh, we didn't mention this before, but something like a, an Osatol powder to support blood sugar could be really good, especially if we are thinking that it's more of, like, a PCOS case. So in that, I know that there's, like, balanced B8, blanking on the other powder that we use, but anosotol, right?

Myositol- 

Becca Chilz: RelaxMax. 

Liz Roman: RelaxMax could 

Becca Chilz: be good. Yeah, that's more of a sleep one. I also really like glycine. I like glycine in these cases because it's needed for so many things, including GABA production. Um, NeuroCalm and Rebalance is what PROGADMAC- PROGAD enhancer used to be. Uh, we would sometimes use that when there would be GAD blocks and we [00:27:00] know that they're converting lot to glutamate.

Neuopept spray helps kind of pull down glutamate to an extent. There's a lot of things that can help with that. Um, that's something that's a little bit more obviously nuanced per case, but especially if I'm thinking more for the PMDD side and glutamate, I'm thinking potentially B6, I'm thinking magnesium, I'm thinking, you know, glycine and maybe an amino acid powder too.

Like things like that can be simple. Kids like the taste of it, right? It's fruity usually, um, just to kind of help bring balance and try to support those precursors for what the body needs to help get through this really tough time. And, you know, maybe sometimes even like a Progon B or something really low dose or chase tree, right?

Liposomal relaxed, I also really like to help with the mood stability, um, but you can't do all of those things without the foundations for them to structure within and to function within because if they're eating like garbage, they're not sleeping, they're super stressed, all of these pieces, it, it's gonna be really hard to support, uh, an environment like that.

And so little [00:28:00] changes can go a long way with kids. Kids are so resilient. And if you start getting on the right track with some things and you can turn around how they feel a little bit, I'm sure they'd be a lot more, you know, bought in to, to trying some other things. But as a parent, I know the harder I push in some directions, the harder they push back.

So I always say, do the little things, right? Like emulate what you want them to behave like and act like and utilize. And so that's why I'm always talking about health and, you know, making the right choices in front of my kids. I don't think that it's disordered to tell them that sugar's bad for you and that you shouldn't eat massive amounts of it.

Taylor, as soon as she woke up asked if she could have a gumball, I'm like, no, it's 6:00 AM in the morning. Mm. Like, you don't need a gumball right now. She chooses and then spits it out. Like it's just a game for them. 

Liz Roman: Yeah. But- but it's like the habits, right? And that's one thing that I was trying to reiterate to Marcus last night, he said that he wanted to have

We had these little, like, ice cream mochi things after dinner. I'm like, "No, you need to wait a little bit, first of all, if you were going to have that, but you didn't go [00:29:00] to soccer or jiu-jitsu because you told me you have a headache. I'm not giving you sugar." Like, this isn't how this works. And so it's also just, like, explaining to them in a way that it's not me just wanting to destroy your life by saying, no, it's that it is a valid reason, right?

If we're active and we're healthy and we've had, you know, good hydration, this is huge, Bec and I both have been talking about both of our boys, like, "You need to drink more water." Mm-hmm. Um, you know, he loves, like, the poppies and all that stuff and those are fine, but you also, the rule in our house have to have at least a few cups of water or, like, finish your water bottle that you take to school and then refill it and finish that, especially because he's active.

Both of our boys are active after school, either between soccer and jiu-jitsu for my son or you guys got baseball and whatever, like, we need hydration. And I'm fine if you wanna add some electrolytes to that. Uh, my, obviously he doesn't like the element tea, the salty stuff, but there's other ones that can get out there.

Yeah. So, you know, these are all just things to think about. And then again, if you are like, "This is really overwhelming or my daughter has all the things [00:30:00] going going on. She's got digestive issues, she's got skin issues, she's got horrible periods or PMDD moods, and it's impacting her focus, right? It's impacting her brain health and cognition, or she has all these allergy issues, right?

These migraines that are hitting her around the time of her period, and we wanna get in and do the work, right, to fix the underlying dysfunction and help them. And with that, we like to test and address. We know that hormones are fluctuating. Honestly, in these cases, blood work and gut testing is where we're always starting.

We're probably not gonna run a Dutch test on a gal unless we're really concerned that they aren't methylating well. Again, I'm just gonna obviously go by symptoms. I'm gonna look at their labs. I'm gonna look at their homocysteine and other things. Genetics can be really, really powerful here too. So you need help with any of this.

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